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jan33

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I wrote in this box last week, but don't know where it went. I need some help using all this confusing forums stuff. Nov 9, 2013

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  • My Story

    Several years ago I read J.Sarno's book, Healing Back Pain, and, for some reason, dismissed it as impossible to integrate into my life at that time. I was very busy and involved in intense work with a counseling practice and many other responsibilities. I have suffered back pain for as long as I can remember and have seen so many chiropractors I can't name them all. Several of them told me they had done all they could and dismissed me as a patient. All the others, I gave up myself and tried to find someone else to help me. The pain would be terrible and then get somewhat better and come and go all the time. About 7 years ago, I had a major overhaul of my home and had to move books, etc to the garage. I carried heavy boxes. After that, I began to have a debilitating headache coming from my neck and up the right side of head. It never went away. I saw an acupuncturist, chiropractors, massage therapists, trigger point therapist, regular MD, and several different specialist MDs; Had an MRI and, yes, it showed 3 bulging discs in neck. The pain specialist MD at that time, frightened the heck out of me, saying that if I had a sudden jolt I could become paralyzed. He had a regular mill going and said I needed his office physical therapy, his acupuncturist, his psychologist and regular office visits twice a week...The bill went into $1,000.00s of dollars (most of it ins. didn't cover) before I had the guts to quit. There's more to say about more specialists, but it's the same story. My search for relief was still a dominating factor in my life. I finally found Aleve twice a day took the edge off and I could just function. I drove 45 miles twice a month to see a neck specialist chiropractor for some help and maintenance. I also began to see a Qigong Healer/Homeopath for energy work. He said from the beginning that my pain was emotionally based, and tried to gently discourage me from seeing any more specialists who made physically based diagnoses, and used forceful treatments, such as chiropractors. I had a 2nd MRI and it showed only two bulging discs now. I did not manage to heal even with his diagnosis that the pain was emotional based. Three months ago, I started swimming vigorously without preparation; the result is now a diagnosed frozen shoulder, which is 1,000 times more painful than anything I have ever had. Headache also still as strong. Sent to Physical Therapy by Shoulder Specialist. I have gone for one month. It just hurts more.

    One night, recently, I just yelled out in desperation at the Universe or God or whoever listens to us: HELP, HELP, HELP!!! The next day I got a flyer in the mail advertising a L.A. seminar called "When Stress Causes Pain" and it gave the exact amount of Continuing Education Hours I need this year. I looked up the facilitator, Dr.Howard Schubiner, and John Sarno's work came up as well.

    So, my story up to this point is that I am convinced that all my years of pain are from repression and anger channeled through the autotomic nervous system into constant pain in my muscular system. I have had to get past the fact that two physical incidents triggered new pains, moving boxes and swimming, but I am journaling every day, (nothing new for me, I've done it many times before), but this time I have this invaluable information about the unconscious and the nervous system, and the years of no one in the helping professions being able to understand or alleviate the pain. The people who are writing of their processes and eventual cures is so valuable. I read them as much as possible, because this theory is hard to keep in mind throughout the days.

    I see and identify defenses I am using that justify and keep the pain going. I want to stay focused on the work, but, WOW, journaling and focusing on so much negative stuff every day is depressing too. I really want to keep this going, AND I will; so I am glad to read that many of you didn't have results right away. It helps to read that others say, "this is difficult, but keep doing it" I pray that I will be one of you who will be able to write. I'm CURED. NO PAIN! to be continued .......
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      jan33
      I wrote in this box last week, but don't know where it went. I need some help using all this confusing forums stuff.
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  • My Story

    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    los angeles, Calif
    Occupation:
    Crisis Counselor/partially retired
    Several years ago I read J.Sarno's book, Healing Back Pain, and, for some reason, dismissed it as impossible to integrate into my life at that time. I was very busy and involved in intense work with a counseling practice and many other responsibilities. I have suffered back pain for as long as I can remember and have seen so many chiropractors I can't name them all. Several of them told me they had done all they could and dismissed me as a patient. All the others, I gave up myself and tried to find someone else to help me. The pain would be terrible and then get somewhat better and come and go all the time. About 7 years ago, I had a major overhaul of my home and had to move books, etc to the garage. I carried heavy boxes. After that, I began to have a debilitating headache coming from my neck and up the right side of head. It never went away. I saw an acupuncturist, chiropractors, massage therapists, trigger point therapist, regular MD, and several different specialist MDs; Had an MRI and, yes, it showed 3 bulging discs in neck. The pain specialist MD at that time, frightened the heck out of me, saying that if I had a sudden jolt I could become paralyzed. He had a regular mill going and said I needed his office physical therapy, his acupuncturist, his psychologist and regular office visits twice a week...The bill went into $1,000.00s of dollars (most of it ins. didn't cover) before I had the guts to quit. There's more to say about more specialists, but it's the same story. My search for relief was still a dominating factor in my life. I finally found Aleve twice a day took the edge off and I could just function. I drove 45 miles twice a month to see a neck specialist chiropractor for some help and maintenance. I also began to see a Qigong Healer/Homeopath for energy work. He said from the beginning that my pain was emotionally based, and tried to gently discourage me from seeing any more specialists who made physically based diagnoses, and used forceful treatments, such as chiropractors. I had a 2nd MRI and it showed only two bulging discs now. I did not manage to heal even with his diagnosis that the pain was emotional based. Three months ago, I started swimming vigorously without preparation; the result is now a diagnosed frozen shoulder, which is 1,000 times more painful than anything I have ever had. Headache also still as strong. Sent to Physical Therapy by Shoulder Specialist. I have gone for one month. It just hurts more.

    One night, recently, I just yelled out in desperation at the Universe or God or whoever listens to us: HELP, HELP, HELP!!! The next day I got a flyer in the mail advertising a L.A. seminar called "When Stress Causes Pain" and it gave the exact amount of Continuing Education Hours I need this year. I looked up the facilitator, Dr.Howard Schubiner, and John Sarno's work came up as well.

    So, my story up to this point is that I am convinced that all my years of pain are from repression and anger channeled through the autotomic nervous system into constant pain in my muscular system. I have had to get past the fact that two physical incidents triggered new pains, moving boxes and swimming, but I am journaling every day, (nothing new for me, I've done it many times before), but this time I have this invaluable information about the unconscious and the nervous system, and the years of no one in the helping professions being able to understand or alleviate the pain. The people who are writing of their processes and eventual cures is so valuable. I read them as much as possible, because this theory is hard to keep in mind throughout the days.

    I see and identify defenses I am using that justify and keep the pain going. I want to stay focused on the work, but, WOW, journaling and focusing on so much negative stuff every day is depressing too. I really want to keep this going, AND I will; so I am glad to read that many of you didn't have results right away. It helps to read that others say, "this is difficult, but keep doing it" I pray that I will be one of you who will be able to write. I'm CURED. NO PAIN! to be continued .......