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Dry nose

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by NameK, May 16, 2023.

  1. NameK

    NameK Well known member

    Alittle backstory

    When I was 14 found out from my dentist I was born with a pretty badly deviated septum which prevented me from breathing properly through my nose.

    Causing me to be a mouth breather my while life.

    So at 15 i had surgery aka a septoplasty to correct said problem.

    After i could breathe so well and it was amazing but at some point maybe like 6 months to a year later I got a bad sinus infection which I think may have caused it to not heal properly.

    I ended up with nasal dryness the doctor called it non allergic rhinitis and I've lived with it since.

    Until I noticed I couldn't breathe through my nose recently 14 years later

    I also terrifying discovered what empty nose syndrome was and now think I may actually have this.

    The doctor said my septum has redeviated alittle bit and that my nose is super dry and to use saline rinse and Vaseline but I don't think it helps very much and it gets painful at times.

    It's also the route of my eating issues as its hard for me to breathe through my nose when I eat or in general and I suspect it might be effecting my sleep as well.
     
  2. Baseball65

    Baseball65 Beloved Grand Eagle

    I have a lot of trouble with sinuses, but it was all self inflicted (Powders, pills,etc)
    I thought about getting it 'fixed' but was warned about many of the things you mention here...and also scarring/keloids,etc making it a futile repair

    I also paint and work in construction so It is extra irritated

    I use Neti Pots, Nose drops and psudoephedrine... occasioanally if I can't stand it one prednisone makes it go away but it's a rough trade...being able to breathe for being hungry, moody and not being able to sleep

    and yes , it sucks, But in my case, it's all my own fault
     
  3. NameK

    NameK Well known member

    See that's the thing I had it back when I was 15 I just wanted to be able to breathe better and it did work for the time being.

    But unfortunately I didn't know about the risks involved with it as they are supposedly rare but still I don't know if I have empty nose syndrome or not.

    I'm not saying I do have this as it is quite rare as far as I know.

    I ent that did the surgery said my septum has slightly re deviated again slightly but not enough to need surgery.

    He recommended it
    if those things don't work but like how would getting surgery again fix the nasal dryness/pain when I try to strictly breathe through my nose.

    I don't even think I would risk it
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2023
  4. Dorado

    Dorado Beloved Grand Eagle

    70% to 80% of the world population has an observable deviated septum. In addition, we know that empty nose syndrome involves suspected changes to local nerves, which the mind-body connection can definitely influence. I'm no medical professional, but I'm always suspicious when I see nerve involvement, especially when someone felt great for six months to an entire year after a surgery. You also have a history of TMS.

    It sounds like your nose only redeviated a little bit and you're also handling allergy symptoms with treatment.

    Do you notice your symptoms coming and going? Does your provider think that the sensations you feel are aligned with visible nasal passage changes or have they remarked that your symptoms are more intense than what would be expected? And, lastly, did you notice your symptoms increase, decrease, or stay the same after your provider's feedback?
     
  5. NameK

    NameK Well known member

    I would say it's probably been like this for atleast awhile but I never noticed it only because I resorted back to mouth breathing as it became uncomfortable and painful to breathe through my nose.

    It got noticeably worse last year hence why I booked the specialist appointment.

    Took about 6 months to see him abd he just said there was dryness in my nose and to use Vaseline and nose spray.

    I know the nasal spray doesn't help me I've tried it to no avail but have not tried the Vaseline yet.

    As far as I know no known allergies either maybe I did devolp some later on in my life it's possible.

    I still don't have the surgery notes on what he actually did all those years ago.

    But atleast he didn't recommend another surgery right away.

    And again my redeviated septum is okay but before surgery mine was a really bad case and I was young 15 at the time I didn't know any better back then.
     
  6. Dorado

    Dorado Beloved Grand Eagle

    It got noticeably worse last year. Were you also dealing with significant emotional pain or stress at that time? Or did you experience relief from TMS symptoms and noticed that the dry nose became worse?

    It sounds like you may be experiencing quite a bit of chronic fear and stress. I recall us previously discussing other topics such as floxing, etc. Again, it’s suspicious to me that you felt fine for six months to a year after the surgery. I am not a healthcare provider nor can I diagnose, but I do strongly suspect a TMS component with this situation now, especially given your fear.
     
  7. NameK

    NameK Well known member

    Back again sorry for the late reply

    As I'm trying to relearn to breathe through my nose again. Thats when i noticed my nose being dry, irritated painful when I attempt to breathe through it for extended periods

    it causes discomfort and it feels like I can't breathe (I'm likely hyperventilating) for the record I'm pretty sure a sinus infection during my healing stage along with a couple of hits to the face might have trigger this response that's I guess you could call it autoimmune in nature.

    It was confirmed my (rhinitis was non allergic due to a allergy test but that was a long time ago.)

    He also recommended putting Vaseline in the lining of my nose which I thought was odd because long term this can actually cause pnuemonia.

    Which unfortunately I just had in mid October and was out for 3 weeks.

    I was not using Vaseline in my nose at all prior to this BTW.

    I also forgot to get my medical records on the surgery to see what he actually did because I know if turbinates removal or shaving is required it has a higher chance of causing ens.

    Now I did not know about ens and talking to people who have it (yes I know it shouldn't be) have said there is no way I could go 15 years without it bothering me that much. Yes it unfortunately can be that bad.

    But it is possible I could have a minor form of it I don't know.

    The doctor wouldn't diagnose it if I asked about I'm sure. So maybe I should get a 2nd opinion.

    I was on nasal steroids for awhile after the surgery which is standard protocal but I can't be on that long term.
     

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