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Dr. Hanscom's Blog Am I Operating on Your Pain or Anxiety?

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  1. Back In Control Blog

    Back In Control Blog Well known member

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    My surgical-decision making has become a clearer over this last couple of weeks – but in an unexpected way. I have noticed this year that many patients with significant structural anatomic problems will improve or resolve their symptoms without surgery after engaging in a self-directed structured approach. It appears that as the nervous system calms down that the pain threshold rises.
    Surgical decision-making
    The barometer I use before I help them make the final decision is whether they are sleeping well and their anxiety levels have dropped under a 5 on a scale of 10. My experience with performing surgery on a patient with a “fired up” nervous system has consistently been less than satisfactory. Pain control is difficult and even the longer-term results are marginal. There is often still a significant amount of residual pain.
    Four patients
    I saw four patients that I had an almost word-for-word conversation with regarding their decision to undergo surgery. All were men between the ages of 45-65. They had leg pain originating from an identifiable problem in their spine. The pain was severe enough that each wanted to undergo surgery but they were all at least an 8 out of 10 on the anxiety scale and were not sleeping well. Their stresses included a seriously ill teenage daughter, loss of jobs, marital problems, etc. and none of them were coping that well.
    Can you live with your anxiety?
    They were familiar with the DOCC project but had not engaged with the concepts at a meaningful level. They were coming back for their second and third visits. Finally I asked each of them the same question, “What would it be like if I could surgically solve the pain in your leg but the anxiety you are experiencing would continue to progress over the next 30 to 40 years?” Their eyes widened with a panicked look and every one replied, “That would not be OK. I could not live like this.” Each of them also grabbed his leg and asked, “Won’t getting rid of this pain alleviate my anxiety?” My answer was “no.”

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    Anxiety is a core symptom of the Mind Body Syndrome and these circuits are burned in over time. Chronic pain is a huge stress and reinforces these neurological pathways. They are permanent and although the relieving the stress of pain will usually temporarily decrease anxiety it will remain a significant long-term problem. There are too many other life situations that fuel anxiety.
    The quest

    I told them that although I would love to get rid of their leg pain with surgery my bigger concern was their severe anxiety and possibly chronic pain. I recalled my 13-year battle with pain and anxiety. I was on an endless quest to find the one answer that would give me relief. I also remembered the intensity of that need. At that moment I realized that each of these patients felt that by getting rid of the pain they could lessen or solve their anxiety.
    It is actually the opposite scenario. As your anxiety resolves it is common for pain to abate. Crippling anxiety is a solvable problem with the correct approach. That does not include surgery. Also, after a failed surgery, another level of hope has been taken away.
    Can you live with your leg pain?
    Then I asked each of them that if I could resolve their anxiety but they would have to live with their leg pain, what would that be like? Although not completely happy about the scenario they thought they could deal with it. It was more palatable than experiencing no improvement in their fear.
    “Let’s do the surgery first”
    My concept of pain has been turned upside down over the last year as I have seen a number of patients who had a tight compression of nerves in their lower back or neck with severe arm or leg pain. I have historically thought that I should be aggressive in surgically solving the problem and dealing with the structured spine care program later. It seemed that it would be too difficult to engage in it while in so much pain.
    “NO”

    These patients did not want to jump to surgery and wanted to give the DOCC program a try. Within six to twelve weeks their pain disappeared or subsided to the level where they were not even considering surgery. Although I know pain and anxiety are linked circuits I had never realized that for many patients the pain relief they asking for was for peace of mind.
    Conversely I have many patients over the years have a successful surgery for a severe structural problem with no improvement or worsening of their pain. Now I understand. “Neurons that fire together wire together.” Pain, anxiety, and anger are tightly intertwined. As long as the anxiety/anger pathways are fired up they will keep the pain circuits firing.
    Surgery may or may not help your arm or leg pain. It rarely solves neck or back pain. It really doesn’t work for anxiety. What relief are you asking your surgeon for?
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  2. nancy

    nancy Well known member

    Hello, I am responding to your post on the wiki. I have had horrific leg
    pain for 8 yrs now. I have had every test there is to have, MRI's, all the
    way to whole body scans and etc, etc,. 8 yrs of Dr's and tests, chiropractors,
    pt, everything several times a week. I know I have TMS, I have experienced
    severe anxiety and stress for the past 9 yrs. I actually experienced it since
    I was probably a child. I am trying so hard to fight it and get back to living
    a normal healthy life. Hope to hear from you, Thank You for the post, Nancy
     
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