Feedback on Pain Cure Clinic

I know about TMS very well and believe strongly in it. I dont need knowledge or therapy to convince myself to believe that pain is psychosomatic. I have known this for 3 years and followed Alan's recovery program. It has helped me a lot however I am not completely healed. I thought, will give pain cure clinic a try and my first session is tomorrow. Just wanted to get some feedback on them and how they can help differently that what we have already learnt or did so far.

 

Hi shmps. I went thru the Pain Cure Clinic before I discovered tms wiki. I had two skype sessions with John Thornton @ $175.00 each for 1.5 hr each. He recovered from back pain and his partner from RA using Sarno's approach. He has added an exercise component which he calls "physicality" and provides an action plan after talking to you and figuring out what seems to be contributing to your symptoms. Also provides a list of books to read - many of which are found on this site. His action plan for me was a little too aggressive and when the symptom imperative set in, I could not keep up. He is a coach and has no credentials for counselling and he is quite straightforward about that. A couple of people have posted that they had great success with him recently. If I find those posts I ll let u know. For me, i needed more follow up and counselling and could not afford his fee of $125.00 for 1 hr sessions. That was just my experience. I think he is competent but expensive.

 

Ok there are two recent threads posted in success stories subforum . One by Katie Scissor and another by War Eagle Man - both had great success with pain cure clinic. Hope that helps. Good luck.

 

Thanks so much for your reply. This was good information for me.

 

Thanks!!

 

Yes, I have seen a TMS therapist from Alan's team and she to me has been a god send. I learnt how to change my relationship with fear and how to be outcome independent.
No, I have not any structured program or journalling or meditation. I dont know what holds me back. All I believe in and have done in last 3 years since I have known TMS, is Alan's work. I have done the pain recovery program.

 

Re PCC spamming. Was this ever cleared up? There's quite a bit about their program/website that looks appealing to me. Apart from their, possible, dubious postings I'm seeing nothing but positive reports… granted many of those are from their own sources, but its been 6 years and they seem to get results consistently.

Btw, I have tried the free SEP a couple times over the years, as you recommend above, but it's never been a good fit for me. Thx!

 

“The SEP has never been a good fix for me” ... the SEP isn’t intended to “fix” you. It is, as @JanAtheCPA an self driven program to help you help yourself. It’s intent is to help you stop looking for external “fixes” and to assist you to turn inward, where your true answers lay.
You can certainly get assistance with your journey but a good tms therapist is going to always insist that turning inward is the answer.

 

I said SEP wasn't a good "fit" Cactusflower, not fix.

I'm an old hand with TMS, but a sincere thanks for all this, @JanAtheCPA. All these names are familiar. I've read most of their books, plus a few others - seen two different PPC therapists, done Schubiner's workbook. What I'm looking for now is "guided assistance with my journey", which PCC offers in a very clear way. Although after reading through the thread you mention re their squirrelly TMS community citizenry and promotional practices, I'm somewhat less inclined to use them.

Thanks again

 

I've fully embraced Gordon's The Way Out as a resource for some interesting new ideas. He's charting a bit of a new path - nary a mention of Dr. Sarno in the book.

 

IMHO Gordon's very interesting book leans on the behavioral/cognitive aspects of the neuroplastic (TMS) pain rather than on the emotional roots of that phenomenon.
But it seems weird/sad the forgetfulness of the pioneering/seminal work, but "too freudian", by dr. John Sarno?
Anyway an extraordinary book, recemtly also available in Spanish.

 

I want to leave a comment, because I feel touched and disappointed by the fact that some people just want to earn money, exploiting others' pain and despair, especially when this forum can be hope for tmsers all over the world.
I cannot see the spams ( maybe because I am in another country) and I do not read the threads that suggest something which is to be paid. In addition, in order to go on with my healing process, I had to trust what I read in this forum, I had to believe that people are real and sincere and that the purpose of this forum is to spread the tms theory and help. In fact I feel a little insecure.
But, to sum up, I have a rule: I will not give money to someone, unless I am pretty sure I will get help. It may sound a little strange to some of you, but think that all around the world there are many countries, in which people believe in the necessity of public health. I don't know the word but I mean that people can go to the hospital for any reason - even to a therapist or a serious surgery -without paying nothing and without having an insurance contract, just because they are humans and deserve to be healthy.
I hope that you can protect the content on this forum and the members opening their soul here. I also hole that some day, all people will have access to public health, it takes much pressure of you and is human and right

 

I'd bet everyone who pays PCC gets help. They just didn't need to pay. ...or did they? A concise paid plan from a legitimate looking website might help some folks access Dr. Sarno's approach. I agree it's uncool that PCC appears to take ownership of this approach ("Sarno 3.0" indeed), but TMS is effectively an open-source method. I routinely pay for software based on open-source code because it's packaged and marketed in a way I can understand.