new long and awesome interview

Thanks for this one in particular!

I am equally sad for the Sarno bashers and for the Sarno purists. Rigid black & white thinking doesn't ever feel healthy to me, regardless of the subject, or which "side" someone is on. Physical, mental, emotional and relationship health flourish with an open mind.

 

I finally finished listening to the entire podcast, and I think that the value of this interview with Dr. Schubiner cannot be overstated. I plan to recommend it to all new members, because I swear, (and as @Ellen already said) I feel like he answers all of the questions that newcomers always have. In addition to the main focus, and many other related topics which I can't remember at the moment, he briefly mentions his early association with Dr. Sarno in addition to the comment already noted above, and also the phenomenon of the Sarno "book cure". He covers the use of medications, long Covid as a mindbody condition (with a case study from his own practice), and where journaling fits into recovery. He also explains the reasons for needing to clearly understand how and why your brain is keeping you in fear before you can apply recovery techniques - IOW, he confirms what we say here all the time: you need to "do the (emotional) work".

Dr. Chatterjee is very cool and awesome - he's in the UK. His podcast is Feel Better Live More, along with a newsletter, the usual social media, and several books - all listed on his YouTube channel.

Yes, the interview is very long - it's almost two hours of the most up-to-date knowledge and pure wisdom of Dr. Schu - for free. Worth much more than a couple of hours of your time.

I recommend having your screen close by if you want to be able to quickly skip the many ads after the required 3 or 4 seconds. I listened over several sessions. And I will listen again. And I'm about to send it to a number of friends. Also, here is the podcast page instead of YT:
How To Heal Chronic Pain with Dr Howard Schubiner - Dr Rangan Chatterjee (drchatterjee.com)

Thank you, @mbo for this incredible find!

~Jan

 

The reason my lifelong TMS started quickly escalating in 2011 was triggered by aging (turning 60) and that was definitely a combination of fear about, and rage against, mortality. Other emotions mixed in were related to isolation and abandonment, loss of freedom, and lack of meaning.

In eleven years, I have never spent ANY time analyzing or worrying about perceived (and typically subtle) conflicts between the many mindbody practitioners doing this work. There's a ton of overlap in the words and context used - I just accept the ones that resonate for me, and I let others go, which will undoubtedly resonate for someone else. I do, however, frequently warn people against overanalysis. It's almost always just a distraction, and a way to avoid doing the emotional work while being convinced (by one's TMS brain) that something is being accomplished. I'm not saying this applies to you, just putting it out there if anyone else is reading this.

 

I see all the key words, so it probably does, but visual aids like this don't do anything for me. I find them time-consuming to analyze and ultimately not memorable - which just makes them a time-wasting distraction. The words of our teachers, written or spoken with compassion and accompanied by case studies, are what stick with me. And spending the time to do the emotional work is what leads to relief.