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Partner still triggering my symptoms

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by taliaaa92, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:33 PM.

  1. taliaaa92

    taliaaa92 New Member

    Hi everyone,

    I know I’ve already posted about this in the past how my husband is a trigger of one of some of my symptoms. But I feel stuck and need help :(

    the most annoying symptom that bothers me the most happens when I’m around my husband. My body goes into a braving pattern around him. My breathing gets short, and I get tension in my jaw and neck. I’ve been journaling and listening to Nicole’s podcasts and doing all the things. The tension has eased up maybe just a tad, and of course I’m getting new symptoms on top of it. But I guess the one thing that prevents me from feeling like I can heal while still being around him is I noticed in my body that when I think of the word divorce, the tension I feel in those areas start to relax, and my breathing feels easier. I’ve journaled about it so many times about it and I’ve really let myself think of the possibility of divorce (even though I want to work on our marriage problems). I guess I just want to have a reason of why my body relaxes at the thought of this word? I’m so stuck on finding the reason.

    Journaling has made me realize certain needs I need from my husband and he’s been working on himself SO much (he now journals and talks about how he feels instead of avoiding it) so we are both actually committed to working on our marriage. So what the heck gives? Why is my body continuing relax at the thought of divorce? Ugh. And then I end up obsessing over it and any time I feel tension that I can’t release when I’m around him, all I do now is think of the word “divorce” to alleviate my symptoms.
     
  2. clarinetpath

    clarinetpath Peer Supporter

    This one hits close to home. I read a few of your other posts too. These bodily sensations you're describing, they are the emotion of fear. I had the same emotion around my wife, and I still have it around my son when he misbehaves. Basically you're afraid of him for some reason. You could say your brain is perceiving danger. The perception may not be logical, but that doesn't change the fact of its existence. You have to sit there or lie down quietly and let those sensations be there without trying to change them, until they go away on their own. It may be due to unresolved conflicts, or if they been resolved it could simply be a learned response, conditioning in other words.

    I don't know exactly how to advise you, but I suspect this has something to do with you forgiving your husband for whatever the problems were, assuming they have been resolved. I read something near the end of Steve Ozanich's Great Pain Deception book about forgiveness. I don't know how to explain forgiveness, because there are many people I do not forgive, and still actively despise in fact. I did forgive my wife though for problems we had. Anyway Steve said in his book that unfortunately sometimes our Ego prevents forgiveness in the time we're allotted in life with our loved ones. Then I thought of a most important person in my life who is dead now, and with whom I had some arguments near the end of her life. The troubles were never entirely resolved before she died and I felt deeply guilty and full of regret. I thought of this as I considered Steve's statement and my tears of sadness flowed. I did not want to repeat this with my wife. The next day and thereafter I no longer was afraid of my wife. Whatever that emotional change is, that's forgiveness.

    A few more things
    - As you are afraid, he must totally and completely approve of you. He must show no disapproval and that must be genuine or your subconscious will know. Call it telepathy, and there's a neurological basis for it too.
    - Neither of you must want to extract anything out of the other to make yourselves feel good, safe, complete, etc (you meet your own needs).
    - Any expectations or disapproval that either of your family members have for him or for you, they have to be eliminated completely. That kind of interference is poison to any relationship.
    - Unless and until you are both 100% confident that these issues are all worked out, I would not have a child. These problems are hard on children emotionally.
     
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  3. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    And I'm thinking that this happens because deep down you actually want to be single?

    Forgive me if I think this is blindingly obvious, @taliaaa92. The fact is that I've been there. I reached a point in my marriage where I was not merely unhappy in the relationship, but I had to face the truth about reality, which is that the thought of being attached to this other person for another three decades or so was very much NOT what I wanted for myself.

    Mind you, we went to counseling, because neither of us wanted a failed marriage, but fortunately we were both able to get over ourselves and admit to each other that maybe we'd be happier apart. Thankfully, we were on the same page, and it was a huge relief and we are still really good friends. There were no children, no financial inequities, total agreement on who did or did not want to buy the other out of the house, not even any pets to fight over. There were a couple of former foster kids in their twenties, and a lot of very surprised friends, but they got over it.

    I recognize that not everyone is so lucky to have it so easy and relatively painless. If the attachment is one-sided, if there are children, if there are financial hardships, or if there are extreme cultural or familial expectations to stay together, those things are going to get in the way of what you really want.

    To the extent that any of these pressures are non-negotiable, you have to figure out how to accept them and move forward.

    Note how I emphasized the all-important "P" word above, which is Pressure. Pressure is at the heart of all symptoms. There's the pressure of your emotional repression, and the pressure of outside expectations, and the pressure of self-judgement. Until you can figure out how to eliminate, relieve or learn to live with these pressures, you can't actually expect to heal yourself. This is the painful truth about reality.

    I mentioned what you really want. My therapist says this is a crucial question to answer, because it's one that we often don't ask - that's because we're consumed by all the things that we DON'T want. You already know that you don't want to suffer the pain of your symptoms, and you don't want to suffer the pain of your emotional turmoil. You're going to have to decide what you DO want, and figure out how you can make that happen within whatever constraints you might be dealing with.
     
  4. taliaaa92

    taliaaa92 New Member

     
  5. taliaaa92

    taliaaa92 New Member


    I do put a lot of pressure on my marriage and on my symptoms to go away so I can go back to enjoying being around my husband instead of obsessing over the symptoms around him.
     

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