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Recurring symptoms after a real illness

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Notters_1983, Feb 10, 2025.

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  1. Notters_1983

    Notters_1983 New Member

    Hi All,

    Further to my post on the support sub forum, which I appreciate was perhaps as bit too medical, I wondered if it'd be possible to have a more general discussion about how to know when TMS takes over from real illness (I'm now something like 99.9% sure that what I have is TMS and not a recurrence of the problems I had last year).

    I think TMS is targeting me with headaches now because it's an easy target (it used to always be back pain) does that make sense? Over the weekend I even noticed when I started to think psychologically and the headaches started to fade I had some of the old back twinges, which is a clear sign of TMS?

    Appreciate your help with this as the only answer I'm going to get from any doctors is to take some drugs. Also feel this could be really useful for others on here?
     
    Notters_1983, Feb 10, 2025
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  2. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    It's not either TMS or not TMS. The mechanism for pain and other sensations that is used by TMS is exactly the same mechanism as that used by so-called "real" illness and injury. The TMS mechanism is ALWAYS at work, and it explains why some people get sick more easily than others, because long-term chronic stress actually does weaken the immune system (Dr. Gabor Mate MD explains this in The Body Says No, or The Myth of Normal). In the primitive world I suppose that this didn't matter as much when we didn't live very long anyway. The only goal was to get us to survive just long enough to breed, but the mechanism has never evolved beyond that primitive goal, which means that it works for shit in the modern world - which we can define as pretty much any time in the last five millennia or so after humans got together in bigger groups and started surviving longer - and enduring the stresses of living in bigger groups.

    Read this post I wrote on someone's thread, where I describe how I rejected Rx pain meds after I broke my hip and had surgery to hold it together. AKA, a so-called "real" injury. THREE YEARS before I knew anything about Dr. Sarno and TMS: https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/new-medical-information-on-my-neck-and-spine-inverted-curvature.28607/#post-150154

    After you read it, answer this question: do you identify as someone who is ill, or do you identify as someone who is well and can choose to recover from setbacks?
     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2025
    JanAtheCPA, Feb 10, 2025
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  3. Notters_1983

    Notters_1983 New Member

    Thanks Jan this is great advice and ties in with what Dan Buglio said on one of the videos I watched the other day - you are who you tell your brain you are the most!
     
    Notters_1983, Feb 11, 2025
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