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What Is self?

Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by Tms_joe, Jan 29, 2024.

  1. Tms_joe

    Tms_joe Well known member



    Last post for a good while...

    Video might make more sense after reading.

    Once it was truly understood the nature of suffering and seen within I come back around to see a mental health "profession" that is beyond lost. It's not to say there are not therapists and such making amazing progress easing the suffering of so many. It's that they didn't finish they're own journey. They can't take you all the way to liberation inside bc they themselves cannot locate it. I grew up around mental illness and the only constant was no lasting improvement in my family. 42 years and counting. 3 different family members all with different doctors. Many or likely most mental health pros still suffer mental health suffering.

    Straight to the point. Humanity is lost. Maybe you knew that. We allow our weakest and/or those struggling most to live in the streets with no real help. Every single war is just mass murder bc one side wants what the other has. You can't possess 50% of the entire monetary supply of a country without the other 99.9x% of people having to make do with the remaining 50%. We're just not loving each other enough.

    Every mental health screening/session I've ever been part of or learned of included listening to the patient talk about themselves and their problems. Literally the patient's problem is that they focus on themselves too much and consider life not coddling them to be a "problem." Observe the game of life in your life and others. Is it trying to satisfy anybody, or is it random?

    Human beings do not like to accept reality as it is. We like metaphors and comparisons, and we replace reality often to fit what we find acceptable. Some of us have a theory for everything we do not understand. This breeds delusion. The world supports your delusion. It's impolite to tell people they are wrong or even nuts. So most don't...

    That contraction "inside" as a reaction to what happens "outside" is our fundamental defect. We create a sense of self. An identity. It is 100% comprised of thought, emotion, memories, and ambition for future. It is FALSE! Your neighbor can't touch it, feel it, be it, or even rightly examine it. The sense of self the majority of the world believes themselves to be DOES NOT EXIST. In the video above J Krishnamurti is explaining these things to 3 doctors. There's a point where the doctors start to see what J. Is saying. You can see 1 Dr squirm as this realization will obliterate a lot of what someone thinks they know.

    I watched this a few months ago. Iirc the doctors just think what J Krishnamurti was suggesting was just too hard. Impossible. A living breathing example is sitting in front of them proving otherwise.

    This is not different than what Jesus Christ taught us. "The Kingdom of Heaven" is to exist identified with that which is beyond that false self. Jesus tells us it is not a physical place. He tells us it is "at hand."

    The Buddha thousands of years ago told us the same thing.

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    Einstein told us the same thing.

    The end goal in modern psychiatry seems to be placating and calming the false self to a point you can contribute to society and be useful.

    Correct spiritual practice is always about transcending the false self. Unfortunately the world of spirituality is rife with conmen and otherwise confused individuals. Choose wisely.

    It's understood how bold these claims are. All of it comes from realization and are not other's words. The information is put here for the rare individual who gets it for the first time. Surely some who are healed already have come to see these things.

    A lot of times, or almost always, you see a spiritual teacher not revealing their methods to help you. There's an element of deception there that is for your own good or believed to be. This is not that. This is straight to the point in a way few can handle. I was truly about to kill myself by the time I decided to seek help. I didn't appreciate the roundabout ways so I'm putting some direct information to be digested.
     
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