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Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by mbo, Dec 14, 2024.

  1. mbo

    mbo Well known member

  2. Baseball65

    Baseball65 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Wow. Good Find. That ought to be a sticky post
     
  3. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Can't really make it sticky, and technically, this isn't new news - we've been hearing about this for at least ten years (note the footnote reference to a CBS investigative report in 2014 - and Consumer Reports started questioning the efficacy of these surgeries at least that long ago, among others).

    This article IS a call out to health journalists to pay attention to this issue, and it offers compelling statistics, naming names of hospitals that seem to be pushing these procedures more than others - wasting untold millions of dollars which is ultimately paid by consumers and taxpayers.

    It's still important information, and I think this thread would certainly benefit from a more relevant title. It also needs keyword tags so that people searching on those surgery terms will be more likely to find it. I've added more tags but I won't change a title without the OP's permission. @mbo, what do you think?
    Suggestion:
    Breaking news - appalling rates of useless back surgeries
     
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  4. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    “I think the literature is very clear that once you have any kind of back surgery, you’re on the path to have more and more back surgeries,” Mirza said.

    Oh man! This is so true. Everyone I know who has had back surgery—it didn’t work —and they had more. And the risks of surgery are real. Dr. Sarno, you brave dear man!
     
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  5. BruceMC

    BruceMC Beloved Grand Eagle

    One useless orthopedic surgery leads to more ineffectual useless procedures, not just backs but shoulders, hips and knees. Hands too. The future belongs to neuroscience period. One of my book vendors had a replacement knee installed 8 months ago and now it's turned up leaking goo. Back to square one and start all over again! High-performance athletes seem particularly susceptible to the siren song of the orthopedic surgeon who claims he can "fix" anything pertaining to knees, hips, backs, hands, wrists etc etc. Never seen any outcomes that would warrant the pain and outright danger of such procedures. When in doubt, my advice is stick to OEM (original equipment manufactured).
     
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  6. BruceMC

    BruceMC Beloved Grand Eagle

    And I notice that Adventist Health in Sonora has just installed a back surgery facility in their hospital here, no doubt to make more money off of people who insist on having these worthless procedures. Hence, the problem snowballs as supply and demand both increase logarithmically.
     
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  7. TG957

    TG957 Beloved Grand Eagle

    But Dr. Schubiner was fired by the hospital because he wasn't making them money, despite helping the patients heal. Medical industrial complex, ladies and gentlemen.
     
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  8. BruceMC

    BruceMC Beloved Grand Eagle

    The litmus test for any medical procedures should be whether it works or not.
     
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  9. Cap'n Spanky

    Cap'n Spanky Beloved Grand Eagle

    A quick Google search says the average back surgery cost between $12,000 and $35,000. Just imagine if a portion of that money was put towards a TMS recovery program/TMS therapist/etc., instead.
     
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  10. Cap'n Spanky

    Cap'n Spanky Beloved Grand Eagle

    I think the litmus test is who's getting rich and who has the best lobbyists.
     
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  11. TG957

    TG957 Beloved Grand Eagle

    I get very angry when I think that after 50 years of success Dr. Sarno's method is practiced by so few doctors while the snake oil of surgeries is sold to the millions every year. If you add up all the back, knee, wrist and shoulder surgeries, it is a multi-billion dollar industry.
     
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