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could my symptoms possibly be TMS?

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  1. matthewj7

    matthewj7 Newcomer

    so im a 17 year old male and this all started in december so a few months ago. i woke up and for like a week straight i had an insane urgency to use the bathroom. i went to the doctor and got it sorted out or whatever, but i was still worrying about it and if it would stay forever and never go away, that day was extremely stressful for me and i cried alot. but that same day i had a headache come on after a weird sensation (felt like a pop or crack i dont know if ill ever be able to explain it) in the back of my head, i’ve always been a headache person but the sensation was weird to me so i just slept it off. but when i woke up the next day, i had a terrible headache, the worst headache ive ever had. ever since tbat day the headache has dulled down ALOT but its still there 24/7 and ive had every single test and everythings clear. i also have neck pain, back pain, shoulder pain, pelvic pain, stomach pain, all randomly and its never 24/7 and it all started after this. ill list why i BELIEVE it could be TMS

    1. headache came on during a stressful time
    2. symptoms are inconsistent (the headache has gotten better since, if it was something structural it’d stay the same or get worse)
    3. have a history of anxiety and depression and TMS personality types
    4. pain started without injury
    5. and in my opinion the most important for me, sometimes when im EXTREMELY and i mean like 100% distracted i feel like it goes away, but this doesnt happen often and its maybe once or twice a month. also literally just today the neck pain started again, i closed my eyes and observed it neutrally and it went away INSTANTLY!

    reasons why i have doubts

    1. its 24/7, and sometimes stress makes it worse but sometimes it doesnt
    2. it felt like there was a clear physical cause right before it started

    let me know what you think as this is ruining my life
     
  2. Rabscuttle

    Rabscuttle Newcomer

    Just because symptoms are present 24/7 doesn’t mean they’re not TMS. Also the initial symptom of urgency to urinate could easily be TMS as well, the brain tensing up the pelvic muscles or nerves (in fact that was also my first obvious TMS symptom) and that first symptom is your scare event that you obsessed over and sent your nervous system into extreme fight or flight, not saying it’s your fault or anything, just is what it is.

    I would say without a doubt it’s TMS, what’s more likely, all these issues occurring individually, simultaneously, or there being one underlying cause (your heightened nervous system)?

    feel free to get a second opinion with a dr, but be wary of getting medicalized, and if first line tests show nothing, stop seeing them unless in dire need, the medical merry go round can utterly set you back and be ruinous.

    and honestly congrats about accepting this as a possibility at 17, indicates incredible intelligent and intuition, I’m about twice your age and only got on this train a few months ago.
     
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  3. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Welcome, @matthewj7, and let me echo this:
    Because hah, I was 60 when I discovered the possibility of TMS after a lifetime of mild TMS symptoms that did not reach a crisis until I was faced with the "rage of age" as I call it.

    If you haven't yet read a book by Dr John Sarno MD, we always recommend that as the first step. You can read about him and find information about his four books here: https://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/John_E._Sarno,_MD (John E. Sarno, MD)
    You only need to read one. They are available in all formats (especially the last three) and at many libraries.

    Here are some other resources to get you started:

    This is a self-assessment test from the PPD Association (the professional group of mindbody/TMS doctors, therapists and other practitioners):
    https://ppdassociation.org/ppd-self-questionnaire (Symptomatic – Association for Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms) (Self Quiz — Psychophysiologic Disorders Association)

    This is a forum thread with a link and description of the "ACEs Quiz" and its relevance to physical suffering:
    https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/aces-quiz-online-printable-versions.27061 (ACEs "quiz" - online & printable versions)

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    Last edited: May 7, 2025 at 6:19 PM
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  4. Baseball65

    Baseball65 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Of course it is...But it doesn't matter what we think..it matters what you think.
    Go and Buy a copy of ' Healing back Pain' and read it thoroughly. Every concern you mention is addressed in the text. That's how we got better
     
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  5. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi, @matthewj7

    Welcome! You’re smart to get this far. Good for you! Your checklist for being TMS is great. I’ll try and address your two doubts.
    I have about 8 symptoms and they’re all 24/7. Most TMS is 24/7 until you get rid of it. It can subside or increase for its own reasons—often without any clear explanation (stress or not).
    TMS almost always comes on after a legit physical problem because it’s looking for something you would be willing to believe is real (to distract you!)

    Your remaining doubts will melt away as you get to work. And it’s work, don’t doubt that. It’s a journey. But you seem like a fast learner—and you’re determined. All good things! Check out the success stories. They’re inspiring!
     
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