Dr Google

Hi All I would like to preface this post by saying I am a firm believer in mind body/TMS and its not meant to scare anyone. However what I'm seeing gives me some concern. If I understand correctly DR Sarno and many other MDs/ TMS therapists have said rule out a medical issue first. Yet I am seeing a lot of people assuming whatever is wrong is TMS. No medical intervention. Yes I also know the opposite is true have gone to every Dr imaginable, every test as well...this post is not for you.

I mention this certainly not to frighten anyone but to be careful with self diagnosis, or for those who give advise.

I have a dear friend who had terrible sciatica ish pain...he was treating it with PT and it wasn't getting better, quite some time went by...it wasn't TMS either but multiple myeloma.

A client of mine came back from a long exhausting trip from the Dominican Republic. Her lower back felt achy understandably she thought it was general fatigue and and very bumpy bus rides. We did a gentle Pilates workout. She cancelled her next appointment to rest her back (I don't have my clients doing anything that makes them uncomfortable)... Long story shorter I ran into her on the street when I thought she'd be at her summer house...it turns out she was rushed to the emergency room for a severe kidney infection.

I hope this post is taken with the loving care it's meant to have. I understand I'm new here so I truly hope this post is not out of line. @Forest delete it if it is I just feel I'm seeing a lot of advise that everything is TMS.
Please don't be Dr Google and do a self diagnosis. Part of a TMS lesson is loving and caring for yourself.

Warmly, Susan

 

True enough. My mum was going to the GP unwell and was being told it was anxiety and I was totally 100% sure she had TMS...I even bought her Steve O's book. It turned out she actually had lung cancer and she was dead 3 months after getting the correct diagnosis. Double whammy really as I've has health anxiety for 5 years and over the last 3 years both my mother and father have died from cancer which was missed by GP's which is the health anxiety sufferers deep seated fear and I also sit with guilt over the fact that I never really took my mothers concerns as serious as I maybe should have as I was sure she had TMS.

 

Huckleberry sending you warm loving hugs, I'm so sorry about your parents....

 

Hi All,

I'm sorry Huckleberry, my thoughts are with you.

I've had the very same discussion with SteveO on another thread and he said it depends which lense we look at these illnesses. Most TMS Dr's are very careful with applying their definition because they don't wish to be discredited by being radical or certainly making claims without scientific weight or proof.

All TMS diagnosis come with the caveat "to rule out any structural or underlying medical issues before proceeding with the program". I personally think, when we are working through the program, we should never be afraid to ask our physicians if we are unsure about symptoms, ask as much as we need to, or at least until out belief is concrete. I'd say there's no harm in adapting a dual approach if one is unsure. Needless to say, regardles of whether someone has TMS, or a more serious Mindbody disorder, the modalities taught can only improve ones well being, healing times, strengthen the immune system and how we manage fear, anxiety, day to day stressors etc.

However, there are those Dr's, Gabor Mate, Lissa Rankin etc who hold a strong belief that the mind has a serious role in the causation of cancer and other serious illnesses.

 

However, there are those Dr's, Gabor Mate, Lissa Rankin eyc who hold a strong belief that the mind has a seriousrole in the causation of cancer and other serious illnesses.

@mike2014 although the mind may have caused the illness which I can believe I don't think treating cancer psychologically will work. I'm hoping they don't promote that as treatment

 

I agree, it may be beneficial to use these techniques to prevent and avoid. But once one has developed something life threatening, the smart move would be to embrace western medicine (chemo etc) and supplement with alternative modalities, ie meditation, dieteray changes etc. Unfortunately, cancer is a big beast that nobody understands.

You may wish to read the following thread:

http://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/spontaneous-remissions-project.9452/

 

@Huckleberry - I'm so sorry to hear about your parents.

@Susan1111 - Thank you for posting this; it's very important to bring it up and for everyone to keep it in mind.

 

Thank you @Forest. I tend to worry but with concern and a good heart. Your response as always is thoughtful and filled with pertinent information. On a personal note I'm glad to see what was written about Dr Rauchbaum as he confirmed my diagnosis this past Nov. I will pass this on to a neighbour who will be seeing him in Feb on my recommendation.

 

Thanks for the comments guys.

 

Susan

What test did he perform

 

I spent about an hour with him. He first reviewed my medical history with me and asked me to describe in detail what problem I was having. He then asked personality questions.

The examination was checking full body reflexes and sensations. He then felt the muscles in my upper back thorasic area and took photos showing how the slightest touch left a red impression before and after touching... which was the oxygen deprivation... It only happened on my upper back nowhere else.

Lastly he looked at the X-ray I brought. Although my X-ray showed severe degeneration of my Cervical spine and Arthritis his diagnosis was firm TMS.

 

Interesting.... What made you go to him just to confirm a tms diagnosis

 

Yes to confirm.

I had been in pain since June I was told it was a pinched nerve. The X-ray freaked me out!!! I started researching and found him here in NYC. I waited two months for the appointment.
Reading a book wasn't good enough for me! Although I fit the personality

 

I went to one in Boston .... Not believing my regular dr saying I was fine and under some kind of stress. I do not feel is worth the trouble once your dr clears you... It can only be tms . The TMS dr I went was a quack

 

My Dr agreed with Arthritis and pinched nerve causing pain so it was very upsetting to me. I also had emotional stuff more than I realized.

It's a shame you saw a quack. Dr Rauchbaum I knew had a good reputation. Even with his diagnosis there was a little voice in me until more recently that something was physically wrong especially when I had a week of going backwards. Now I get it loud and clear!

 

@Boston Redsox TMS has been an amazing journey into learning more about me... Just when I thought I knew it all!!

 

I feel the same .....I have really learned a lot about myself and how I have been repressing my anger ... Even though I have not seen much pain improvement over the last year . I continue to be grateful for what I have and have a positive outlook and try to have energy and motivation.