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stagnation... your opinion?

Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by lili2002, Nov 22, 2024.

  1. lili2002

    lili2002 Peer Supporter

    Dear all, I would like to have an opinion because I feel in stagnation.
    I'm 48 french woman.
    I did the structured program and saw a almost total improvement in my low back pain after hernia surgery 3 years ago.... which did not change anything of course:)
    However, for several months I have been very disabled with terrible upper back and neck pain, I continue the program. I write. I’m exercising. I go to the psychologist because I am a very "people pleaser" person with childhood trauma (haha: I have the feeling of making a copy stick with the other stories here). My life now and almost perfect: my big children are balanced and loving, my husband is a beautiful person.
    I live in a region and do a job that I love.
    I am in rage to have to take care of my mother but I EXPRESS it and I FEEL it.
    I can say NO nowadays.
    I m learning to love myself.
    I know that's imperative.
    I know you'll tell me that I want to be perfect with the TMS treatment but that's not true: sometimes I throw all this away, drink and smoke for a few time :) and accept all that.
    I'd like to get your feeling through my words.
    with love,
     
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  2. BloodMoon

    BloodMoon Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi @lili2002,

    I love the look of that cake - whenever I see it, I always want to eat a big slice of it as it looks so delicious! :)

    My suggestion is to self-soothe. Dr Sarno wrote about this in his book 'The Mindbody Prescription' as follows:

    "Suppose, however, there is another element in the equation; that it is not simply the quantity of rage that brings on symptoms, but the presence or absence of counterbalancing soothing factors … the occurrence of symptoms reflects too much rage and not enough counteracting soothing elements in one’s life."

    If/when you self-soothe I'd recommend to be sure to do so without focussing on any particular TMS symptom (otherwise your TMSing brain might take it that you're believing that there is actually something physically wrong with you and that you're not safe).

    I've found the ideas in this book wonderful in helping me self-soothe; they are quick and easy to do and can also become part of one's daily routine: https://www.amazon.com/101-Ways-Fin...hqVZ9OWv5ty7GXFFva71pJ4&qid=1728834014&sr=8-1
     
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  3. BloodMoon

    BloodMoon Beloved Grand Eagle

    P.S. Also, throughout the day tell and remind yourself how wonderful you are. (As you're a people pleaser and had childhood trauma, I surmise that you almost certainly won't have had enough praise and appreciation from other people during your formative years... so give yourself that praise and appreciation now, e.g. for taking care of your mother, and for other things you say and do and for how kind etc., you are.)
     
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  4. Cactusflower

    Cactusflower Beloved Grand Eagle

    I agree with @BloodMoon
    You mention trying to love yourself: recognize that this alone might bring inner subconscious rage if you don’t quite yet believe this.
    Telling yourself with inner talk is a great idea, but I also found I needed to treat myself as if I did love myself.
    How?
    Meditation, yoga, or taking time just for you - to break from your thoughts about the world - hobbies, time with friends, sit and enjoy or play music, go for a walk, play your favorite sport .. and go even further if you need to.
    I was not treating myself with kindness in any way both mentally and physically. So now I take time in the morning to get ready for my day: luxurious moisturizers, no rushing but taking time. Stopping to listen to my body: does it feel rested or is there already tension: am I anxious or anticipating (learning EFT tapping was also helpful and fast!) reading Claire Weekes so I know what to do about the anxiety and with kindness to myself.

    Understand that sometimes this work is like peeling layers from the onion. There is always opportunity to practice the skills and learn more about ourselves.
     
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  5. lili2002

    lili2002 Peer Supporter

    This cake is a french signature "la tropézienne" my favorite!
     
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  6. BloodMoon

    BloodMoon Beloved Grand Eagle

    I just looked it up and see that it has an orange blossom flavour; makes me want to try it even more! :)
     
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  7. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    I'm thinking of a couple of things @lili2002. You've come SO far, and you have so much to celebrate! Unfortunately, the way our brains were designed, they will always be working to keep us negatively oriented towards danger. We have be alert and aware of how that is always going on.

    Look for the subtle ways in which pressure is a factor in your thoughts. Anytime you put pressure on yourself, it will result in judgement and that will lead to symptoms.

    And don't forget that your well-being is going to be influenced by what is going on in the world. These are hard times for those of us who are hyper-sensitive, because we are surrounded by so many things that feel very dangerous, even though most of us are lucky enough to be quite physically safe in our homes. That alone can produce guilt due to our awareness of others who are not so fortunate.

    The mere fact that these outside stressors are completely out of our control is a big source of stress that takes its toll, even if we are diligent about minimizing our exposure to the news and social media. I was talking about this in therapy yesterday, the fact that the current state of the world requires a new set of coping skills.

    Tarte tropézienne... that's one way to cope and now I have to figure out if anyone in Seattle is making it :joyful:
     
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  8. HealingMe

    HealingMe Well known member

    Bookmarking this reply.
     
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  9. lili2002

    lili2002 Peer Supporter

    Haha that's fun.
    I ve started this notion "love myself" a few Time ago. I stay in bed and congratulate. I eat all the french fries and tell me "oh ! Very good! You re finished your plate"
    And as said Dan last week, talk to my brain like to a very, very sad 13 young girl.
    And the pain moved from lombar tu neck to my left ear... Maybe will go one day from my skull to the sky
     
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