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Theta Burst TMS vs High Frequency Repetitive TMS

Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by MoonBooty, Nov 14, 2023.

  1. MoonBooty

    MoonBooty Newcomer

    Hello all, I'm new here. In 2020 I received an initial 38 session with high frequency repetitive TMS in a Neurostar Chair/Machine. I had amazing results! COVID lockdown immediately happened on my last week. I relapsed within 2 months and received maintenance sessions that got me right back on track. It was amazing. After 127 sessions into 2021 and a second session of 38 at the end w new anxiety protocol. I was able to be off my antidepressants and Adderall for almost 2 years. 28 min on left side and 11 min on right side of my dorsal lateral prefrontal cortex. When it was time for more maintenance sessions, they had started charging to treat the right side for anxiety & I couldn't afford it. I ended up fully relapsing and having to go back on meds. That place went out of business.
    I recently found a place that did bilateral TMS. And took my insurance. I was thrilled. I started treatment and it was totally different. I wore a cap and it was only 30 seconds on my right side and 3 minutes on my left. I couldn't believe it. I read lots of research saying the shorter treatment times were ineffective. My place told me these were Theta Burst waves and have shown to be just as effective.
    I'm not having even close to a similar experience and will be done in a week, with nothing but increased fatigue to show for it. I'm quite disappointed as I feel this is the way TMS is going to maximize patients and profits, but minimize effectiveness, all for the same insane amount of money (450.00 a session) which I thought was more than fair when I was in the chair for almost 40 minutes and it totally worked. But $450.00 for 3 min 30 seconds? I literally feel not one symptom or side effect that I had with the longer sessions in the Neurostar machine. And I don't feel much better.
    Has anyone else experienced the difference or have anything to say in response to this?
    I'm so so disappointed. Thanks in advance!
     
    MoonBooty, Nov 14, 2023
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  2. JaneSandyJane

    JaneSandyJane Peer Supporter

    This is not the right website for you -- you're talking about a different TMS (trans cranial magnetic stimulation). This is a psychosomatic pain forum. best wishes.
     
    JaneSandyJane, Nov 14, 2023
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  3. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    @JaneSandyJane is correct, @MoonBooty. Our TMS stands for Tension Myositis Syndrome, a phrase that Dr John Sarno MD created back in the 1980s, when he was developing his theory of the mind-body connection in chronic pain disorders.

    That being said, I believe that the TMS that you refer to is performed on people who suffer from psychologically-based conditions, so you might in fact be interested in checking out Dr Sarno's theories. His last book was written in 2008, bringing him up to date with the state of mindbody knowledge at that time, although there have been significant neuroscientific advances since then, which is very exciting. The book is called The Divided Mind, and I downloaded the ebook version from my local public library back in 2011 when I discovered Dr Sarno and did this work to recover from a crisis of physical symptoms. Our forum has a lot of access to free resources.

    Good luck!
     
    JanAtheCPA, Nov 15, 2023
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