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Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Looking for space, Jan 11, 2022.

  1. Looking for space

    Looking for space Peer Supporter

    Hey man thanks for sharing. I have a ton of rage, and I have been focusing on this neuropathy, and this other pain. And today I read something from the book by Steve O.
    And it helped say I'm going to beat this. But im so aware of the anger and rage.. I'm a people pleaser and learning to speak up for myself.
     
  2. Baseball65

    Baseball65 Beloved Grand Eagle

    OK...So, that rage we are aware of? That is the tip of the iceberg...Our unconscious never ages so its like a raging thrashing glass breaking 5 years old who didn't get his way , throwing a tantrum.
    That is why the symptoms are there. On Page 77 of Healing Back Pain Sarno gives explicit instruction that when we "Become aware of the pain to Forcefully and consciously turn our mind to a recurrent source of anger"

    But if it's unconscious, isn't this foolish?

    NO. You are retraining your own brain that You KNOW what it is up to and you are aware of it even if you don't understand all of the details.
    That particular strategy, along with generally raising your awareness of the ones you CAN figure out, is THEE most important action...because as Sarno says "You are blowing the cover on a covert operation...when it realizes you have discovered it's existence...it stops and the pain stops"

    I have had pain til I nearly puked, but done just that and been pain free the next day. It took about two weeks the first time, but the longer you practice it, the easier it gets.

    and the reason your brain chose the pain? It's trying to protect you....Tell it you no longer need its help. You will Not become a murderer or a psychopath, though that is what our conscious brain is scared of. ...Break some shit....go Shooting...destroy some furniture....go get alone and f-ing lose your shit on someone whose not there....it's all good
     
  3. Looking for space

    Looking for space Peer Supporter

    I was just reading steve Os a book this morning and I took took some advice from that book, and I said, i'm not putting up with this crap anymore so hopefully I can tap into some of the rage. It's been there for a while this morning.I slammed my foot down on the floor and I thought i'm not afraid of the pain anymore.I'm not afraid of this pain.

    I have to head into work, but I'll get back to this thread later. Appreciate the advice @Baseball65
     
  4. CalmIsTheCure

    CalmIsTheCure New Member

    I find this thread slightly unsettling. Why is there other people on here saying PN and neuropathy are irreversible? I have to say that this has slightly scared me. Why would a person say these things? Is it true?
     
  5. Baseball65

    Baseball65 Beloved Grand Eagle

    This is an OLD thread...look at the dates. I had PF twice, and it went away both times with Sarno.
    'neuropathy' is just modern nomenclature for TMS. Because of the failure of the Medical world to acknowledge TMS, they are constantly renaming and recategorizing all sorts of symptom batches. CRPS, Fibromyalgia, etc..all throwaway diagnoses. Neuropathy showed up about ten years ago...it's TMS, Or MBS if you like.
    Wanna have some fun? Look up 'Neurasthenia'...that was what all of Freuds patients got diagnosed with...fatigue, pain, swelling, nausea...but I guess it got cured, because NO ONE suffers from that anymore (LOL) The Chinese diagnoses 'Cherry stone' for throat anxiety 3000 years ago.
    In the 32nd chapter of Genesis, Jacob suffers the first documented TMS attack in History.
    "There is nothing new under the sun" -Solomon
     
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  6. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    @Baseball65
    I want to take a moment to thank you again for always promoting this method: Sarno page 77. I am extremely exhausted by the exploration of my rage, which has involved 10 years of therapy and more recently three years of internal family systems therapy. I have journaled ad nauseam. I think for all these reasons, I tend to focus lately more on the anxiety side of my symptoms, trying to soothe myself and calm my hyper sensitive nervous system, vs. focusing on rage. But this might be a mistake.

    I always wish that I could find that thing I’m currently angry about and get my symptoms to subside. But I never have been able to. I love what you say here about chipping away at it. It’s worth the effort and I also like the advice to continually focus on your psychological issues to tell your brain that you are onto what it’s doing. I’m feeling more recently resolved to go back to journaling and looking a little harder at things, once again. Last night, I had the rare experience of waking up and remembering a dream perfectly, and it was something I was really mad about in the past that I had no idea was really on my mind now, but obviously it was because I dreamt about it. I think this is a small example of what you’re talking about the tip of the iceberg More than anything I want to say to myself and everyone on this forum—we can’t give up. People like @Baseball65 show all of us that we can have a life. We can prevail. It’s just a matter of doing the work and persisting. Thank you, Baseball, for your relentless promotion of Sarno tactics for liberation from TMS.
     
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  7. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Whoa, get a grip! ONE person said this, and I'll get back to that in a second, but first, I want you to look to your username, my friend, take a deep breath, and calm down, okay?

    Your TMS brain has you right where it wants you, which is teetering on the edge of panic, just waiting for you to lose your shit and go running to hide your head under the sheets and give up this risky voyage into the emotional unknown which might threaten your survival!!!

    Except that it is not actually a threat to your survival, of course, but your primitive brain interprets every feeling of stress and fear as a sabre-tooth tiger waiting to eat you, because it literally doesn't know any better. Your job is to stay calm and tell your brain that this reaction is totally unnecessary! That's because it's totally unnecessary. It's also harmful to your mental health, but your primitive TMS brain doesn't give a crap about your mental health. It is only concerned that you don't get eaten. Because, and I can't state this too many times, it does not know any better and its only job is to keep you alive in the dangerous primitive wilderness. You - if you will stop panicking and start using your rational brain - DO know better. I know that you do.

    So yeah, someone in the initial iteration of this thread in 2022 or whatever claimed that neuropathy is progressive and the OP can't do anything but accept it and get on with his life and to stop obsessing about the symptoms and allowing them to get in the way. No one challenged this statement directly because whether or not neuropathy is progressive or not is irrelevant IF it is actually TMS using the symptoms of neuropathy to create fear and distraction.

    First of all, at least two other very experienced TMSers said that neuropathy is just another TMS-type diagnosis and that it is reversible (I will add the subtext that this is likely the case when there are no clear reasons for the symptoms to exist, because there is such a thing as diabetic neuropathy, for example - but our brains are in charge of all sensations, and can create real symptoms purely for emotional reasons).

    Second, the advice from DWA was nonetheless good TMS-style advice, which is to stop letting the symptoms have all the power.

    It's a well-known and factual phenomenon in medicine that proactive patients who are positively and constructively engaged in their own recovery and self-healing have better outcomes from "real" injuries and illness than those who give away all their power by lying back and letting someone else "fix" them while they suffer from fear and anxiety. This has been shown to be true for all kinds of measurable, "real" conditions. And when there is no measurable condition, because the symptoms are being created by the TMS brain mechanism purely for distraction from negative "dangerous" emotions, this tactic can reverse TMS - as long as the emotional work is also being seriously addressed at the same time, of course.

    We keep telling you, this is not straightforward. You've been "dabbling" (your word) but not really commiting, instead you're still searching for certainty and simplicity and spinning your wheels with fear and doubt. These are all classic signs of a brain on TMS.
     
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