views on other treatment methods

This has probably been discussed somewhere here but as I'm new I thought I'd post anyway. In the past few months where my pain has been at its worse I was looking at other treatments, one being acupuncture. I have a couple of friends who are having acupuncture treatment and swear by it. But I also read that if you are embarking on a TMS journey but still having other treatment, you are sending your brain messages that you are not convinced that you have TMS and it won't work.
Is there any truth in this?

 

If someone believes acupuncture is going to be curative — that it will “fix” their pain so they don’t have to confront fear, avoidance behaviours, or the mind-body connection — then it can reinforce the idea that:

• the pain is purely “out there” in the body and needs an external fix
• they don’t need to challenge their own beliefs, fears, or coping patterns

That conflicts with the core of mind-body/TMS work, which is about stopping the outsourcing of recovery and recognising the central role of the brain and nervous system — and your own role in calming and retraining it.

So for me, the key issue is how acupuncture is framed.

Helpful framing:

“Acupuncture as a potential helper: It may reduce pain or tension and help regulate my nervous system a bit, but I’m still the one doing the deeper work of changing fear patterns, behaviours, and brain associations.”

Undermining framing:

“If I keep getting acupuncture, eventually my pain will disappear and I won’t need to change how I think or behave.”

In that sense, acupuncture itself isn’t inherently undermining to TMS work... What can become undermining is the belief that it is the cure, because that can quietly pull someone back into a passive “treatment chase” mindset.

If you search the success-stories sub-forum for “acupuncture”, you’ll find plenty of people who list it as something they tried without any improvement in their mind-body/TMS symptoms.

That said, I have also seen posts from people who found it relaxing and soothing with some temporary reduction to their symptoms, particularly when the practitioner created a calming environment: soft lighting, warmth, music, pleasant smells, a sense of safety and care, etc. Personally, I think those factors probably matter a lot.

On a personal note, before I committed to the mind-body/TMS approach, I tried both Chinese and Western acupuncture for my own symptoms, which included PN-like pain. It didn’t make one iota of difference for me.

Having read a fair amount of the research done on acupuncture over the years, my own view is that acupuncture is probably more than pure placebo, but that much of its benefit is likely placebo-enhanced and context-dependent. Its value seems to depend partly on how a person conceptualises it, and whether it supports — or distracts from — their own role in calming the nervous system and reducing fear. And where some benefits do occur with it, they usually require ongoing treatment sessions.

 

Thank you for that. Its very helpful and makes a lot of sense.

 

It depends why you are doing it really - intention is what matters. Are you dong it in the hope that it fixes you? If so, that is in direct contrast with the idea that you have TMS (because the tension is being created by the brain - much like a massage - it might help in the short term but you're treating the end result of the tension or the symptom, not the root cause).

Keeping focus on the body isn't the most ideal thing you can do too.

 

Yes makes sense. Focussing on my body has been a lifetime event!