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Why does energy healing always make me feel worse

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Lee222, Jul 1, 2024.

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  1. Booble

    Booble Beloved Grand Eagle

    @JanAtheCPA is very good at giving "tough love." I know it might be hard to take-in sometimes but it's like the old TV shows when someone was going off the rails and the other person would give them a slap in the face to bring them back to their senses.

    Jan as been around TMS and watched 100s of people have great success, and watched others who have failed. She really does know how to get on track with healing from TMS and related symptoms that contribute to or worsen CFS/ME.
    It's normal for some people whose brains are realllllly trying to protect them from solving the issue to be resistant. Right now for you it's coming in the form that she's mean, she's harsh, she's a cow. It's her fault.
    But really, it's the opposite. She's spending her personal time to try and slap you out of resistance. Once you stop resisting, you can reach inside for the answers and start living your life without thinking about feeling sick and feeling tired and feeling in pain all the time.

    I do think your walls are made of the hardest of cement right now and that you may not be ready to take them down. In which case other approaches of managing symptoms in ways to get on with living your life might be the best thing for you right now. At some point the light might come on and you might have an "Aha" moment of that's what Sarno was getting at and this is what I need to do but it seems like right now your inner self has control of the wheel and it's not going to let you go there. And that's why you are doing everything but the simplest thing -- of "doing the work."

    Wishing you well and some extra energy.
     
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  2. Lee222

    Lee222 New Member

    I don't like her, tough love or no tough love, why are you acting as if I don't understand the therapy though?

    The others had a higher standard of communication but they all went quiet when she came in and started to try and take over, she's a bully
     
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  3. Booble

    Booble Beloved Grand Eagle

    I'm not sure to what you are referring? I didn't mention therapy. I'm sure you probably have a greater understanding of therapy than I do as I'm suggesting the Sarno method of resolving symptoms, not therapy.

    But since you don't seem particularly interested in that and you found Sarno to be ho-hum more of the same then there's really no point in beating a dead horse here. This forum seems to be adding to your aggravation rather than relieving it.

    Different strokes for different folks. Best of luck. I hope you find resolution to your CFS/ME someday.
     
  4. Lee222

    Lee222 New Member

    I'm not sure what the big deal of using the word therapy instead of method, I've done sarno In the past and they used the word therapy
     
  5. Lee222

    Lee222 New Member

    If I wanted to do sarno/tms in the uk how would i do it?

    I did look and some were therapists, some were physios, it really confused me, i'm willing to pay money to do it, i don't understand the hostility in all honesty, is the sarno method physiotherapy?
     
  6. TG957

    TG957 Beloved Grand Eagle

    No. Sarno method is not physiotherapy. This is for you about differences between what you may be calling "word therapy" and TMS therapy:
    https://defeatcrps.com/blogs/tamaras-blog/#cbt_therapy (Tamara’s Blog)
     
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  7. BloodMoon

    BloodMoon Beloved Grand Eagle

    This organisation in the UK has TMS coaches https://www.sirpa.org/find-a-professional/ (Find a professional)

    No, as @TG957 says, it's not physiotherapy. Recommend that you also read or preferably listen to one of Dr Sarno's books, which explain his work, e.g. Healing Back Pain. (Although the book has that title, Dr Sarno's work applies to any TMS symptoms; when back pain is mentioned just substitute with whatever symptom or symptoms you are experiencing.) I say 'preferably listen' to HBP because Dr Sarno himself is actually reading it and, personally, I found it hit home far better for me than when I just read the book.
     
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  8. Ybird

    Ybird Peer Supporter

    I think there may be some differences between mindbody therapies for pain (Sarno/TMS), and those that are more for CFS and fatigue.

    IMO, CFS (which I had full blown for 14 years and am still dealing with though to a lesser extent), is a more profound deficit/problem/whatever than just back pain or something. Medically speaking, it's 'in' your immune, endocrine and nervous systems, it's considered a lifelong disability, etc.
    Have you tried going to someone specialized in CFS?
     
  9. BloodMoon

    BloodMoon Beloved Grand Eagle

    I was diagnosed with 'fibromyalgia' (wide spread muscle pain) and CFS back in the late 90s. Both were extremely profound, but I would say that the CFS was the more disabling of the two. I couldn't work and was completely bedridden for a lot of the time and housebound the rest of the time, for over a couple of decades. I am still on my TMS 'journey' with tackling the remaining muscle pain that occurs in various parts of my body, however, in recent years, since doing TMS work, the CFS has (quite unexpectedly) virtually gone. (I say 'virtually' because I do still experience some fatigue but I don't know whether that's *undue* fatigue for my age or not; I'm now in my late 60s and I was around 40 years old when I became ill, so I have no idea what the normal aging process feels like and what energy levels I should or could have at my age.) Maybe I'm a 'special' case (for want of a better way of putting it) but, given my personal experience, I have to say that I think that it has to be worth trying mind/body work for CFS (even if one perhaps chooses to do so after all other options have failed or have not helped enough).
     
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  10. TG957

    TG957 Beloved Grand Eagle

    I struggled with fatigue for decades, although I did not know it was a medical condition, I just thought I was lazy :=). One of the first benefits of my TMS healing was a substantial rise in energy levels. Meditation seems to bring my energy level up to normal almost instantly.
     
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  11. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    In the Divided Mind, Dr. Sarno’s last book, he talks a lot about how all sorts of other various symptoms are TMS. CFS and even anxiety and depression are TMS. Anything that distracts you from your emotions and consumes all your attention. Your TMS brain has access to everything in your body. It can impact virtually anything. And especially, if it can scare you into focusing on the medical (physical).
     
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  12. Lee222

    Lee222 New Member

    Yeah, I did lightning process, Mickel therapy, reverse therapy, optimum health clinic, faster eft, they all seemed to make me worse mentally and physically

    I follow the tms daily thing on wiki, I didn't find that helpful either, doing it with a therapist or a practitioner is my last hope really
     
  13. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    I think it’s better if you think of it as your next stage in your healing journey. You will get there, however long it takes. Just keep forging ahead. :) There’s so much to learn. You never know when it will all click.
     
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  14. Ybird

    Ybird Peer Supporter

    I did Mickel therapy; I ran into a similar type of problem, it worked for a few years but it wasn't realistic in the long run.

    Have you tried homeopathy? It is mindbody, but obviously you just take a remedy, there is no behavioural aspect. I got a lot of relief from one remedy, Vernix Caseosa.
     
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  15. Lee222

    Lee222 New Member

    No I haven't, I'll look into it, the problem I seem to have with all the Cfs therapies is they focus on not being bored and that seems to increase stress and I seem unable to tolerate any levels of stress
     

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