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Recurrence of Hip Pain post-Surgery

Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by Mr Hip Guy, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Mr Hip Guy

    Mr Hip Guy Well known member

    Most people have TERRIBLE range of motion, not just in hips but everywhere. But they're not in pain. Same goes with posture, or strength, or any of the many other myriad boogiemen that the (well meaning) physical therapists point to for remedy.

    I had awful ROM on my hips too - it was one of the "tests" the PA for my surgeon put me through. Here's the thing though, I had awful ROM in BOTH hips, and I only got one worked on (but both hurt and I BEGGED them to operate on the other one too). Guess what? Range of motion is still bad, and both hips don't hurt. That's TMS.
     
  2. LindenSwole

    LindenSwole Peer Supporter

    Hello there! Thank you for the mention!

    Would you be open to a podcast interview?
     
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  3. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Eddy!!!

    Mr Hip Guy would be a great interview :D
     
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  4. Enrico100000

    Enrico100000 New Member

    I'm as inflexible as you are. And for this reason, it makes perfect sense that you and I got pain in our hips. In my case, I got into doing a lot of yoga, actively working on getting more flexible. Hips were an easy place for my pain to start. I think it's possible I over-stretched something in heated yoga, and from there the TMS/chronic pain began. I bet you were already fixated on your lack of hip mobility before the pain, and it's not surprising at all to me that this is where your pain now is. Also, nowhere in your doctor's diagnosis is anything about "bone-on-bone." I think your fear may be giving you even more in-your-head diagnoses.

    I'm not trying to berate you, but again, you seem to be really preoccupied with your pain and body. I know it's far easier said than done, but you have to live life and work on lowering your fear.

    One other thing I'll mention that helped me for my hip problem was at the outset I worked with a great psychologist who's trained in TMS and works with one of the top TMS doctors. She's not in insurance so it's an expense. But for me it was very helpful to have a coach to work with to help convince me my pain wasn't structural. DM me if you'd like her contact info.
     
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  5. sdiddy

    sdiddy New Member

    What two programs are you referencing? Please provide info thanks!!
     
  6. sdiddy

    sdiddy New Member

    Its ironic you mentioned this because I started hot yoga also and after every session I was often in MORE pain because I think I was going too deep into the stretches (because im the worst one in the class of 50 people I think I feel inadequate in there). So the other day I tried to stretch my IT bands by standing and spreading the legs (like a splits but barely 45 degrees) and since then my right hip has been screaming in pain all day and night for 4 days. Its awful I am barely sleeping. And to answer the comment about bone on bone isnt that exactly what arthritis is? And they are telling me I have "severe arthritis". I want so bad to believe this is all tms but im struggling with some of the symptoms. And I am really not trying to "hyper fixate" on the pain but imagining not being able to work, sit comfortably, or sleep for nearly 2 years. It's a lot and is doing psychology damage to my well being. Im always tired, always throbbing. Im just so tired of it. Im sorry for ranting but its been a lot for me on top of all my stressors in life while trying to be the best father, friend, son, and find love again and success in my new career too.
     
  7. Cactusflower

    Cactusflower Beloved Grand Eagle

    Scroll town the page on tmswiki.org and look for the structured educational program and pain recovery program.

    The definition of arthritis: Swelling and tenderness in one or more joints, causing joint pain or stiffness

    stress contributes or is even the source to things like swelling and inflammation because of the body’s chemical reaction to stress and anxiety - these chemicals create inflammation.
     
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  8. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    @sdiddy
    Check this thread out about arthritis. https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/arthritis-and-tms.8859/
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    arno said it’s TMS.

    Word of advice: make sure you actually consider the advice you get here and don’t keep wallowing in the medical world. That world doesn’t acknowledge TMS. They will look for something structural to pin your pain on. At some point you’ll have to go all in on TMS and do the emotional work to heal. If you straddle the fence, you’ll have no hope of getting better.
     
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  9. intense50

    intense50 Well known member

    A friend of mine started suffering from severe arthritis. Had a wise doctor. The first thing he asked him was how had been his last year. His house was broken into and his wife rolled the car. Unfortunately this was many years ago and I did not know TMS. But I always remember him telling that story because for him it was strange that a doc would ask that .
     
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  10. sdiddy

    sdiddy New Member

    Ok all im posting this to provide feedback and anything that may help us all. This is VERY wierd but after 2 years of TERRIBLE chronic constant shooting/mobility/throbbing/nerve/joint pain, the last two weeks have been a MASSIVE reduction in pain. Im talking 50%. For me this is completely without prescedent. I have even slept for the first time in 2 years because of the reduction in pain, most notably, the constant shooting, burning, throbbing pain in the tfl and the extreme tightness/soreness in the IT band. I do not have an answer as to what is helping but I want to give you my playbook and see if any resonates with you or helps you.

    1. I did PRP in the hips about 6 weeks ago. Until 2 weeks ago I had felt no reduction in pain. The reduction happened literally almost overnight so that makes me think it wasnt the PRP. Im not an expert but it doesnt make sense that getting PRP is like a delayed release bomb that goes off in one night 5 weeks from the injection.
    2. I started accessing this forum and read some sarno and got some hope from some of the stories here about similar hip pain. Meaning, I started for the first time saying "maybe this is more tms than i thought".
    3. I started PT with a new therapist that is having me do more or less the same exercises (90/90 roations, stretches, the usual), BUT she has been doing cupping in the affected areas. Perhaps that is helping??
    4. I started taking shilajit to lower cortisal about a month ago (from Purish).
    5. Ive journaled a bit in the last month and do9ne some short meditations a few times a week (5 minutes).

    Ok so thats it. Overall Im still dealing with plenty of stresses and anxieties in my life, but the biggest one was my chronic pain and what it "means" about the rest of my life. Suddenly, the pain damn near disappeared overnight. Now Im not saying there is NO pain and everything is fine. My body is hella tight in the morning, my mobility is still terrible (but better in the last 2 weeks), and yes it feels sore after yoga or walking a decent amount, but its not chronic and its not distracting. So what do you think is happening? I genuinely hope yall dont say the PRP because it would give me so much comfort knowing it was the other things, more TMS related. But bottom line is I had a massive breakthrough and really so grateful and feeling hopeful again!!!
     
  11. Mr Hip Guy

    Mr Hip Guy Well known member

    That's great!

    Now re-read what you just wrote and see what you take from that. The proof is all there, it just needs to sink in.
     
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  12. sdiddy

    sdiddy New Member

    thanks for the response hip guy. honestly im just so happy to feel some relief but i will admit the confusion of not knowing what transpired that made such a drastic change nearly overnight is the weird part. For example, is it possible it was the PRP? yes of course it is. Is it possible that the shilajit reduced my already high cortisol to a point where im not longer having elevated cortisol related body pain? sure. Is it possible its the cupping? possibly. But the DRASTIC change in such a short time still tells me its mostly TMS related. The things I mentioned above wouldnt activate in a single day, weeks later (I dont think). BUt I havent even done that much in terms of TMS therapy either, which is unusual as well. On one hand I wish I knew the exact formula that is helping. On the other hand, the hope and optimism I feel from getting a massive pain reduction is wonderful and truly makes me feel like we can conquer this.
     
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  13. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Don't discount the power of the placebo effect. It's real, AND it is effective even when the individual knows they are experiencing a placebo. I use it all the time myself. There are researchers trying to figure out how to harness the placebo effect, but getting funding is problematic. It's not like Big Pharma is going to support it...

    Similarly, the "laying on of hands" by empathetic practitioners is very powerful for short-term relief of symptoms, as everyone knows who has experienced relief from massage, acupuncture, chiropractic, cupping, and so on.

    I say that if you want to spend the money, it's fine to take advantage of those things... IF you allow your brain to accept that they are not a cure, they are only for short-term relief, by employing the emotional support and reassurance you receive from someone who is working with you in person. The long-term solution must still come from within yourself.

    Or, as Nicole Sachs says all the time: the problem is not "in your head" but the solution is not in your body. The solution is in your response to stress and how that response represses your negative emotions, whether the stress is from the past or is very current.

    Also - look up the stress-inflammation connection. TMS symptoms are very often inflammatory, and the inflammatory response to stress is how our immune system and survival mechanisms were designed to work. In today's world, with constant stress inputs 24/7, that response becomes problematic.

    Your job is to reduce your response to current stressors by being willing to acknowledge what they are, along with relearning the stress responses you developed in childhood.
     
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  14. Mr Hip Guy

    Mr Hip Guy Well known member

    Of course it is. That's why I said to re-read your post. All that you needed to know was in that particular part. This is similar to a "book cure" situation. The mere realization that TMS is at "play" and even if your conscious mind you only see that as "one possiblity" - it is still enough to make a difference.

    Now, as Baseball65 likes to say - KILL IT. Keep pursuing this lead until you get more realizations, and more realizations, and you'll learn more about yourself in the process.
     
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