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The Mindfulness Summit

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by mike2014, Sep 10, 2015.

  1. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle


    Some of you may be familiar with this, but for those who aren't...
    Melli O’Brien of MrsMindfulness.com has gathered over 30 of the world’s leading experts on meditation and mindfulness for a series of online interviews, practice sessions and presentations taking place for FREE from October 1 – 31, 2015.

    There is a huge line up guest speakers from Jon Kabat-Zinn, Mark Williams, Rick Hansen, Ruby Wax etc.

    It's a free online course and definitely worth signing up to.

  2. Forest

    Forest Beloved Grand Eagle

    I often say that healing from TMS is, like many sports, all about your "mental game." You have to get your head in the right space.

    Mindfulness is a big commitment, but for people who aren't making progress through other approaches, mindfulness is the best way I know to calm your head down so that it can be present day to day and really enjoy life. It does this by teaching us how to be mindful of how we are actually feeling - things that might otherwise be unconscious. The ability to become mindfully aware of an unconscious thought and then let it pass on, without wallowing in it, is at the heart of what makes mindfulness such a powerful technique for "getting your head right." Over the years there has been an absolutely immense scientific literature documenting its effectiveness, which is why we see more and more books about it.

    I don't know much about Melli, but the lineup of experts she has assembled is amazing. Famous names like Jon Kabat-Zinn (the founder of Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction), Jack Kornfield, Tara Brach (Radical Acceptance), Rick Hansen (Buddha's Brain), Dan Goleman (Emotional Intelligence), Arianna Huffington (founder of Huffington post), Dan Siegel (MindSight) and Saki Santorelli are at the top of their fields. (As a side note, Howard Schubiner trained with Jon Kabat-Zinn and Saki Santorelli at the UMass Medical Center).

    For anyone who has been trying to heal for a while, but is finding that they are stuck and journaling isn't helping them any more, or who simply can't seem to get their minds to quiet down, I'd highly recommend signing up for this. It might end up being for mindfulness what The Tapping Summit was for tapping:
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  3. Cap'n Spanky

    Cap'n Spanky Well known member

    The only caveat I might add to Forrest's excellent comments is, if you are a newby to TMS, focus on Dr. Sarno's writings (and other good TMS authors) first. Don't get too sidetracked by trying work a mindfulness program at the same time. As Forrest said, mindfulness is a big commitment. So is working a TMS program. Trying to do both at the same time could potentially be very overwhelming.

    This is of course, only my opinion. But it's a strongly held one.

    Once you are well on your way to being pain free, you can explore other helpful processes like mindfulness. That's one of the beauties of the TMS program. It can lead you to so many other awesome things, like practicing mindfulness.

    Back to Forrest's point, if you have given a TMS program a solid go of it and for some reason you are struggling, then mindfulness may help you get unstuck. As noted, Howard Schubiner actually incorporates mindfulness into his TMS program. That may be worth exploring, as well.
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  4. Forest

    Forest Beloved Grand Eagle

    Good point. I mentioned that indirectly, but it bears repeating.
  5. Smiles

    Smiles New Member

    Thank you for sharing! I have signed up.
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  6. Forest

    Forest Beloved Grand Eagle

    Excellent. I've signed up as well.

    Anyone else thinking of signing up?
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  7. Boston Redsox

    Boston Redsox Well Known Member

    I DID
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  8. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    I just did, Forest, and THANKS to Mike for posting this!

    The small print said I'll receive content from MrsMindfulness and SoundsTrue - which is funny because as I was reading about the logistics, I was already reminded of SoundsTrue's Self-Acceptance Project from... two years ago? I forget, but I still have all of those programs, and the only cost was an email a week, at most, from SoundsTrue. They put out great stuff.

    This will be an interesting group project, y'all!
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  9. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

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  10. MatthewNJ

    MatthewNJ Well known member

    I signed up too! Thanks folks
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  11. Forest

    Forest Beloved Grand Eagle

    Great! And you're a big fan of Jon Kabat-Zin, from Full Catastrophe Living, right? He's one of the speakers and will lead a meditation.

    For those who haven't read it, Matthew has a great success story, here:
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  12. MatthewNJ

    MatthewNJ Well known member

    Forest, TY! And yes, I am a big John Kabat-Zin fan! I read "Wherever You Go There You Are" as my first meditation book. Also, Dr. Evan's (dr.bobevans) worked with Jon Kabat-Zin in the 70's!
  13. Laura83

    Laura83 Newcomer

    I've just done a course on this! So will be signing up!!
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  14. levfin003

    levfin003 Peer Supporter

    Signed up.
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  15. MatthewNJ

    MatthewNJ Well known member

    Hi all, I have been meditating daily since my last severe (and I do mean last) back pain episode in 2008. I was pointed toward mindfulness by Dr Bob Evans, a member of the wiki and one of Dr. Sarno's "trained" counselors. I can not speak highly enough about it. This was within 2 years of reading MBP and 1 year of my diagnosis of TMS by Dr. Sarno. That said, although I agree with Cap'n Spanky it could be overwhelming, it is worth giving it a shot. IMO It could only not work and you stop doing it. Mindfulness changed my life. Mindfulness, was and still is the answer to my TMS recovery. With Mindfulness, we now become capable of following Viktor Frankl's thoughts and making better choices. " Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." Viktor E. Frankl

    If you are overwhelmed by this summit, I would suggest reading the first book I read about mediation by Jon Kabat-Zin "Wherever You Go There You are".

    Good luck everyone.
  16. Tru B Leever

    Tru B Leever Peer Supporter

    Thanks for the info!! Just signed up.
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  17. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    The list of those to be interviewed on Mrs.Mindfulness is indeed impressive.
    I just signed up for it, too. I look forward to learning more techniques for that TMS discipline.
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  18. MatthewNJ

    MatthewNJ Well known member

    This is Really long, but well worth reading about mindfulness from my Teacher Madelana Ferrara
    This is a "reprint" from her monthly news letter "Voices"

    My last missive was a discussion on the great learning I have accomplished while holding space in my new home for a brigade of men (only a slight exaggeration) to come through, temporarily setting up camp, while in the pursuit of advancing the mission of the Nishpatti Foundation and its various campaigns.

    I believe the Bible says something like: Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall. I don't believe that I was reporting my experience from either a haughty (I always loved that word!) or a prideful place. But I do have a recollection of feeling the familiar feeling of comfort in the belief of having genuinely learned something. Silly, silly me!

    I should know better than to believe that learning goes in this way: study, take a test, pass the test, confirmed expert! This must be an archival remnant from my elementary through graduate school days. More realistically, learning goes like this: practice, study, test, fail or pass, practice more, study more, test again, pass or fail, study still more, practice still more, test again, and the cycle continues. It is Samsara, the cycle of life, death and rebirth. The wheel that continuously turns as we repeat and repeat and repeat the processes grasping to our successes and fleeing from our failures.

    What do we do when the cycles are staring us down and the feeling of being cornered by our very own humanness looms frighteningly over our past, present, and future? I suspect we each have a different method for coming to terms with how to break the cycle, but it seems to me that breaking the cycle is the necessary slap on the back to halt the hiccup of Samsara.

    Whether the cycle is one of attracting the same 'wrong' personality type into our life, or to taking the same 'wrong' job, or repeatedly bumping our head or twisting our same ankle, it is surely an underlying lesson that we are trying to learn and master. There really is only one way to receive the message once we recognize that the cycle even exists and that is to receive the blessing of mindfulness.

    Mindfulness is something that my Swami speaks a lot about and that I guess I take for granted in myself and in others. Mindfulness is a blessing that comes with practice, but not just any kind of practice. There is a particular practice of becoming present that must precede any successful achievement of mindfulness. We must learn to be present to the moment of now. This is the only moment. And, to be absolutely dramatic, once you are present to the moment of now you will discover that there is such an incredible amount happening NOW that there is almost no reason to stray mindlessly into any other moment for entertainment.

    I admit that this is a dramatization because, for most people, getting into the moment is a rare occurrence and the process of trying to get there (or shall I say here) is painful. But it need not be. It is easy to attain the benefits of being mindful by simply practicing mindfulness from time to time, that is to say, once or twice a day can do the trick. It is the practice of mindfulness meditation to which I refer.

    There are a couple of other particularities to the practice of meditation, but to start with simply being mindful of the present moment is a good first step. We teach these methods. They can be learned and, once learned, they must only be practiced for short periods of time daily to provide significant benefits.

    Like giving a frantic child a time out, practicing meditation and mindfulness is a time out for us adults. In just a few simple moments, we can learn to shift reality. Shift body and mind. Open heart and quiet head. Lower blood pressure and improve mood. The possibilities are truly endless.

    I write this to you on the eve of the last day the current brigade of men will be camped here. I feel the satisfaction of a soldier who sees the plane that will take me home ahead on the runway, but with a strong sense of sadness knowing that it may be some time before I will see my platoon mates again. This tells me that, not only did I survive the hilarity, the chaos of numbers, the stress of conflict, and the diversity of moods and personalities, but all of this opened my heart a bit wider, my mind was expanded, and my life was enriched by the experience. This is what I can say with certainty in this moment. And this moment is all there is.
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  19. nowtimecoach

    nowtimecoach Well known member

    I signed up too! I love these forums of sharing because I wouldn't have heard about it otherwise. With all these TMS recoverer's - it kinda feels like we're going on a road trip together!! I can't get enough of mindfulness...its a bit like working out for me... either use it or lose it. Whenever I have been suffering from TMS symptoms, the first thing to check is Where am I right now? Usually I was in the past or future with the pain of self-dislocation in the present.
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  20. MatthewNJ

    MatthewNJ Well known member

    ROCK on nowtimecoach! I totally agree!

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